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Post by bettyshe on Dec 30, 2016 20:09:17 GMT
I read that Carrie and Debbie had been estranged for over 30 years. I'm so happy that they reconciled and had some good times together before their passing. I understand that Debbie died from a broken heart from the stress. Let us pray for Todd Fisher the son/brother who has a heavy load right now and Debbie's 24 year old daughter.
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Post by luke2231 on Dec 30, 2016 20:17:00 GMT
Definitely...
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Post by JeepGirl on Dec 30, 2016 20:25:47 GMT
As my one friend always says, "No one escapes." Even the rich and famous have their estrangements. And I do believe she passed due to the death of her daughter. That is how powerful separation/loss/estrangement can be. Many of us here know what has been done to our bodies because of our estrangements.
We really need to take the condition of our health and its connection to our estrangements more seriously (myself included). In the beginning stages I believe it is much worse....we cry more and put more stress on our bodies than we do as time goes on. The only problem I see is that some of us are getting older and,like Debbie Fisher, at this point, it may not take as much to do us in. And we need to remember, that we do want to be here for reconciliation, right?
So, with the New Year and all its "resolutions", maybe one for us can be to not let our estrangements consume us and when those times do come, like birthdays, Christmas, Mother's Day, etc., we should plan ahead as to how we can get thru them with as little stress as possible. Of course, tears and emotions will come but what can we do to prevent them from staying with us for any length of time? Sharing helpful ideas may be a good idea for a new Topic here. Happy New Year's everyone.
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Post by lindajoan on Dec 30, 2016 21:16:59 GMT
This post is so very timely. Very sad is the long estrangement of these two ladies and so true how estrangement takes a toll on our bodies and our minds.
We would all love to change our estrangements and find peace with our EC. That is because we are good mothers. A show biz mother,yes, with all the glamour and yet it still broke Debbie's heart. This is what mothers are like however can only answer for ourselves. We can not change the hearts of our EC. That is the work of God.
A very important message was shared. We do need to be protective and proactive in caring for our health. Estrangement and the stress it brings takes its toll. God will help us each day as we call on Him. He is our protector and our defense. He will never fail.
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Post by bettyshe on Dec 30, 2016 21:54:41 GMT
This is what I've read it's called.
"Broken Heart Syndrome: stressed-induced cardiomyopathy, generally brought on by an emotionally stressful event, such as the death of a loved one. Women are more prone than men. Unlike a heart attack, there are no blocked arteries or heart damage."
You CAN literally die of a broken heart. RIP Debbie Reynolds.
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Post by bettyshe on Dec 30, 2016 22:05:48 GMT
JeepGirl, I like your idea of us planning ahead to help curve the effect of estrangement on our health etc. l am always looking for ways to heal or protect myself from the stress this estrangement brings. God gave us our health and body and I will fight the Devil till I die to not let him take all that Our Father has given me. I think that this new year should bring us new tools.
The Serenity Prayer God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next.
Amen.
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Post by lindajoan on Dec 30, 2016 22:13:06 GMT
Amen, bettyshe.
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Post by luke2231 on Dec 31, 2016 16:34:15 GMT
JeepGirl, what you say about estrangement affecting our bodies is so true! I've always been a pretty healthy eater and exercise at least an hour each day, but in the past 6 months or so have had incredibly sore muscles in my neck that won't go away, and pretty persistent headaches too. A couple weeks ago, I went to get my teeth cleaned and they told me I was grinding my teeth at night, but according to my visit 6 months ago, it must have just started. They asked if I was feeling added stress lately, but I said "no." After reading this, I'm rethinking that! Whether the headaches are causing the teeth grinding and sore neck muscles, or vice versa, I must be carrying this estrangement thing in my body even though my mind is trying to let go of it... Weird.
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